Re: Don't kill the messenger

Howdy you all,

Here is a back and forth exchange I had with Kermit Brown, a supposed "Christian" Wyoming lawmaker. I guess that is the norm to insult those who disagree with you. Thanks for your time.

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You know Kermit, thanks for you kind comments, but just wondering, do you treat everyone who disagrees with you by insulting them? So why DID you responded like you did, as with all your education, you're a very condescending political hack, and obviously not the "Christian" you profess to be. It is truly sad you are a Wyoming politician and are, in the King's terms, a goat and a big one at that. You really do need some spiritual help, and I hope you find it soon. Thanks for your time, and I will not stoop to your level and your condescending attitude toward fellow Wyoming citizens! Good night and good Luck!

 

Best wishes always,

William D. Harasym

 

"This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in."

~Teddy Roosevelt~ In Chicago, ILLINOIS, on June 17, 1912

 

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From: Kermit C. Brown

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:30 PM

To: Harasym 4 Congress

Subject: Re: Don't kill the messenger

 

Boy!  I have to give you credit.  You are more obtuse (Lacking quickness of perception or intellect or characterized by a lack of intelligence or sensitivity. ) than most.

 

 

Kermit C. Brown
Representative House District 14
P.O. Box 817
Laramie, WY 82073
(307)745-7358
kermitbrown@wyoming.com

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From: Harasym 4 Congress

To: Kermit C. Brown

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:32 PM

Subject: Re: Don't kill the messenger

 

Kermit,

The facts are: YOU said this about the report- (GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT):

"How much are we going to have to spend to tell the ACLU they are wrong?"

None of the data that Brown and other members of the committee have questioned is "ACLU data." According to the most recent Annie E. Casey Foundation report Wyoming continues to have the highest rate of juvenile confinement in the nation.

And the problem is not the numbers; it is the system. Oops!

Here's another fact Kermit: "The juvenile system has been, and continues to be, a system that is inherently incapable of providing the most effective outcomes for both children and the community. It is tragic that legislators are using this smokescreen to cover up their lack of attention to this important issue."

For someone who is suppose to be an attorney, I'm kind of wondering about your??? I'm guessing that Presbyterian Christians care about their fellow men, women and children, like in love thy neighbor as thy self, and expressing compassion for the less fortunate? How am I doing so far? So... you may remember the spirituality of Christianity, like in Matthew 25: 31-46 which you might have forgotten? Or not?...

 ³¹ "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.³² All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. ³³ He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

   ³⁴ "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. ³⁵ For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,³⁶ I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

   ³⁷ "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? ³⁸ When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? ³⁹ When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

   ⁴⁰ "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

   ⁴¹ "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. ⁴² For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, ⁴³ I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

   ⁴⁴ "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

   ⁴⁵ "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

   ⁴⁶ "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

You can justify and rationalize any which way you want, but sometimes it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong, so take care there Kermit. Thanks for your time.

Have a great weekend, and Good day and good luck!

Best wishes always,

Bill Harasym

"This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in."

~Teddy Roosevelt~  In Chicago, ILLINOIS, on June 17, 1912

 

 

From: Kermit C. Brown

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:07 PM

To: Harasym 4 Congress

Subject: Re: Don't kill the messenger

 

The problem, in fact, is the numbers.  You should get your facts straight.

 

Kermit C. Brown
Representative House District 14
P.O. Box 817
Laramie, WY 82073
(307)745-7358
kermitbrown@wyoming.com

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From: Harasym 4 Congress

To: kermitbrown@wyoming.com

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:51 AM

Subject: Don't kill the messenger

 

Don't kill the messenger!

For the past 50 years the state of Wyoming has refused to provide a uniform justice system for the children of our state. As a result over 80 percent of our juveniles are processed through adult court often with no access to assessment, evaluation, counseling, probation or other appropriate services.

According to the most recent Annie E. Casey Foundation report Wyoming continues to have the highest rate of juvenile confinement in the nation.

In 2010 the Wyoming American Civil Liberties Union released a report, "Inequality in the Equality State: The Damaged Juvenile Justice and Detention System in Wyoming." Unfortunately, the response to this report from the Joint Judiciary Committee has been to try and "kill the messenger."

Instead of responding with concern and well thought out action the committee has denounced the data and Co-Chairman Kermit Brown last week asked, "How much are we going to have to spend to tell the ACLU they are wrong?"

None of the data that Brown and other members of the committee have questioned is "ACLU data." Not one number was researched, collected or documented by the ACLU. All data included in the report came from the most recent and accurate data available from the Wyoming Attorney General's Office and the Department of Justice. In addition, reports dating back 40 years level the same type of criticism as the current reports.

The problem is not the numbers; it is the system. The juvenile system has been, and continues to be, a system that is inherently incapable of providing the most effective outcomes for both children and the community. It is tragic that legislators are using this smokescreen to cover up their lack of attention to this important issue.

LINDA BURT, Cheyenne                  Executive Director, Wyoming American Civil Liberties Union

 

Best wishes always,
Bill Harasym

"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless
means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral." -Paolo Friere-